Inclusive AF: A People Podcast

Episodes

Leveraging AI to Improve Talent Quality and Diversity with Tina Shah Paikeday
March 26, 2026

Leveraging AI to Improve Talent Quality and Diversity with Tina Shah Paikeday

Get ready for a thought-provoking conversation on The Inclusive AF Podcast! In this episode, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn sit down with Tina Shah Paikeday , Senior Advisor for Responsible AI at Findem, to dig into how AI is revolutionizing talent acquisition and diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) in the workplace.Discover:- How can AI help reduce bias in hiring—and what pitfalls you should watch out for?- What should HR leaders and recruiters know about evolving regulations su...
Elevating Neurodiverse Talent: Breaking Interview Barriers with Coach Ramon Santillian
March 3, 2026

Elevating Neurodiverse Talent: Breaking Interview Barriers with Coach Ramon Santillian

Ready to transform your job search and ace your next interview? In this powerful episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast, Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton sit down with expert interview coach Ramon Santillian to unpack the secrets to landing your dream role—especially for those who are neurodiverse or introverted.Ramon Santillian shares inspiring stories of helping clients on the autism spectrum get hired at top companies like Facebook, Google, NASA, and Amazon. You'll learn why it’s not about havi...
Finding Reliable News: Media Blind Spots, Privilege, and the Power of Asking Questions
Feb. 13, 2026

Finding Reliable News: Media Blind Spots, Privilege, and the Power of Asking Questions

🎙️ Welcome to The Inclusive AF Podcast with Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton! In this special episode, the hosts dive deep into how and where people get their news, the challenges of finding unbiased sources, and why it matters more than ever with today’s fast-moving headlines. From Ground News and TikTok to holiday celebrations and hilarious AI mishaps, this episode combines timely conversations about inclusion, current events, and some much-needed festive fun.Expect honest reflections, tips...
Women, Minorities, and Veterans: Who Benefits in Texas’ New Business Program?
Feb. 2, 2026

Women, Minorities, and Veterans: Who Benefits in Texas’ New Business Program?

Join Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn on this eye-opening episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast as they dive into recent controversial decisions affecting diversity, equity, and inclusion. From AT&T axing its DEI programs to Texas shifting its support for underutilized businesses, Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn break down what these rollbacks mean for marginalized communities, business owners, and the workplace.Curious how capitalism, government contracts, and even definitions of veteran sta...
Actionable Paths to Racial Equity and Belonging in Business with Hugues Sygney Jr.
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Jan. 20, 2026

Actionable Paths to Racial Equity and Belonging in Business with Hugues Sygney Jr.

Welcome to The Inclusive AF Podcast! In this powerful episode, hosts Jackye Clayton & Katee Van Horn sit down with Hugues Sygney Jr. for an inspiring conversation about justice, equity, and how businesses can create true impact in their communities—with a special focus on the B Corp movement.We dig deep into what it means for a company to be a force for good, the transformative role of B Corps, and the real-life programs making generational change—like fair wages, open hiring, and wealth-build...
Making Job Hunting Human Again with Michael Wenning @ HR Tech2025
Dec. 18, 2025

Making Job Hunting Human Again with Michael Wenning @ HR Tech2025

Get ready for an eye-opening episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast! Hosts Katee Van Horn and Robin Schooling sit down with special guest Michael Wenning, HR tech innovator, to dive deep into the realities of modern job searching, hiring bias, and how technology is reshaping the candidate experience.Discover why Michael Wenning believes the current job application process is broken, how his new app "Passive" aims to put candidates back in the driver’s seat, and what companies can do to truly find...
What Happens When Public Welfare Programs Get Gutted with Katee & Jackye
Nov. 25, 2025

What Happens When Public Welfare Programs Get Gutted with Katee & Jackye

Get ready for another thought-provoking episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosted by Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton! In this episode, Jackye dives into the real impact of recent government layoffs — especially those hitting the CDC and Department of Education. Are these cuts really about "fiscal responsibility," or is there something deeper going on?Join the conversation as Jackye discusses how these decisions affect marginalized communities, civil rights, worker safety, mental health, an...
When Company Culture Fails: The Hidden Signals Leaders Send Every Day with Dr. Bobby Melloy
Nov. 20, 2025

When Company Culture Fails: The Hidden Signals Leaders Send Every Day with Dr. Bobby Melloy

Welcome to The Inclusive AF Podcast! In this thought-provoking episode, Dr. Bobby Melloy and Jackye Clayton dive deep into the changing landscape of workplace culture, the science behind organizational psychology, and the impact of AI in HR. Joined by special guest Bobby Malloy from Culture Amp, we explore real stories about leadership signals, psychological safety, burnout, generational divides, and the challenges facing marginalized groups in today's work environment. Whether you’re an HR ...
Radical Generosity and Rethinking Competition: Insights from Ruchika Malhotra on Inclusive AF
Oct. 27, 2025

Radical Generosity and Rethinking Competition: Insights from Ruchika Malhotra on Inclusive AF

Welcome to another thought-provoking episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast with hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! In this episode, we’re thrilled to welcome inclusion strategist and author Ruchika T. Malhotra, who dives deep into her groundbreaking books, including "Inclusion on Purpose" and her latest work, "Uncompete."Ruchika shares powerful insights into why competition isn’t always the answer—challenging the status quo and inspiring us to rethink how we work, lead, and collaborate. Fr...
Navigating Chaos by Design: HR’s Role in Social Equity and Generational Wealth w/ Ashley & Desiree
Oct. 16, 2025

Navigating Chaos by Design: HR’s Role in Social Equity and Generational Wealth w/ Ashley & Desiree

🔥 NEW EPISODE ALERT! 🔥Welcome to another unapologetically real episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast with your hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! This time, they’re joined by Desiree Goldey and Ashley King, powerhouse co-hosts of the Talentless podcast, for a candid, thought-provoking discussion about the state of work, HR, and social justice.Get ready as they break down:- Why HR and Talent Acquisition are the true economic gatekeepers and drivers of generational wealth- The all-too-re...
Navigating AI Adoption in HR: From Shiny Tools to Meaningful Workforce Planning w/ Sarah & Sofia
Oct. 2, 2025

Navigating AI Adoption in HR: From Shiny Tools to Meaningful Workforce Planning w/ Sarah & Sofia

Ready to transform your HR strategy for the future of work? In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, host Katee Van Horn sits down with Sophia Whelan and Sarah Smart, co-founders of Horizon Human, for an honest, insightful discussion about the evolving landscape of HR and Talent Acquisition in the age of AI.Sophia and Sarah bring their expertise from top global organizations to break down how HR can drive trust, equity, and innovation—without falling for every "shiny" tech object. Discover...
HR Tech 2025: The Future of Retention Through Peer-Driven Recognition with Curtis Forbes
Sept. 24, 2025

HR Tech 2025: The Future of Retention Through Peer-Driven Recognition with Curtis Forbes

🎸 How can we make EVERYONE feel seen at work—while actually driving retention and business results? On this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, Katee Van Horn sits down with the dynamic Curtis Forbes (he/him)—former jazz musician, serial entrepreneur, and founder of Mustard Hub—to jam about transforming workplace culture, recognition, and DEI through tech.Curtis shares his unique journey from the jazz stage to launching an AI-powered employee engagement platform and dives into:- What it mean...
Navigating Uncertainty: Building Inclusive Cultures and Resilient Leaders w/ Dr. Carol Parker Walsh
Aug. 27, 2025

Navigating Uncertainty: Building Inclusive Cultures and Resilient Leaders w/ Dr. Carol Parker Walsh

Ready for a fresh, honest take on workplace inclusion and leadership? In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn are joined by Dr. Carol Parker Walsh, an expert in organizational culture and psychological safety. They dive deep into what’s really going on in today’s workplaces: layoffs in DEI, the pressures of AI, burned-out leaders, and the ever-changing expectations for managers.Whether you’re unsure about your next career move, trying to foster belo...
Would You Rather: DEI Hot Takes and Real Talk With Jackye and Katee
Aug. 21, 2025

Would You Rather: DEI Hot Takes and Real Talk With Jackye and Katee

Ready for a refreshingly REAL conversation about diversity, equity, and inclusion? In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn turn up the fun with a rapid-fire “Would You Rather: DEI Edition” game!They tackle everything from DEI budgets vs. CEO support, to potlucks vs. unlimited PTO, dealing with microaggressions, navigating DEI strategy in the workplace, and even imagining Beyoncé or Lizzo at your next ERG Summit. If you need laughs, honesty, and acti...
Why Changing DEI Terms Won’t Change the Mission with Eric M. Bailey
Aug. 14, 2025

Why Changing DEI Terms Won’t Change the Mission with Eric M. Bailey

Welcome to another episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast with your hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! In this insightful and candid conversation, we welcome back Eric M. Bailey—author of "The Cure for Stupidity"—to dig deep into the ever-evolving world of diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging (DEIB) at work.Things are shifting fast: DEI language is being weaponized, organizations are changing their approach (or just changing the name), and real change often feels stuck. Eric shares w...
Navigating the VA’s DEI Rollback and The Real Cost to Veterans with Katee & Jackye
Aug. 6, 2025

Navigating the VA’s DEI Rollback and The Real Cost to Veterans with Katee & Jackye

Welcome to another powerful episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast with Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! 🎙️In this episode, Jackye and Katee dive deep into the impact of the recent rollback of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives within the Department of Veterans Affairs. Discover how these changes are affecting marginalized veterans and active duty personnel, the removal of critical healthcare services (like gender-affirming care), and the troubling implications on mental health ...
What to Do When Work Feels Hopeless: Realities Facing Employees and HR Today with Katee & Jackye
July 24, 2025

What to Do When Work Feels Hopeless: Realities Facing Employees and HR Today with Katee & Jackye

Welcome to the Inclusive AF Podcast! In our most recent episode, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn get real about what's happening in workplaces and in the world right now. From HR ethics scandals and employee morale drops to the impact of DEIB cuts and the increasing role of AI at work, we dive deep into the stories making headlines—and the ones that should be.We talk about:- Why recent public scandals (think high-profile affairs at work!) shake company culture- How the rollback of DE...
From Burnout to Boundaries: Protecting Your Space in Challenging Times with Lindiwe Davis
July 17, 2025

From Burnout to Boundaries: Protecting Your Space in Challenging Times with Lindiwe Davis

Ready for some real talk on navigating job pivots, protecting your mental health, and finding your purpose—especially when it feels like the world is upside down? Join hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton for another empowering episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast! 🎙️This week, returning guest Lindiwe Davis (aka The Couch Coach) is back to dish on:- How to stay the course in your career—even when the path twists and turns- Setting boundaries to protect your energy (and why that’s 100% OK!)...
HR’s Wake Up Call: Auditing AI Tools After the Workday Bias Case with Katee & Jackye - Episode 155
July 11, 2025

HR’s Wake Up Call: Auditing AI Tools After the Workday Bias Case with Katee & Jackye - Episode 155

🎙️ Welcome to The Inclusive AF Podcast! In this must-listen episode, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn dive into one of the hottest and most pressing topics in HR: AI Bias in Recruiting—especially focusing on the landmark Mobley vs. Workday lawsuit. With over 1.1 BILLION applications potentially impacted, what does this mean for your organization and your hiring practices?We break down:- The real risks of bias in AI-powered ATS systems like Workday🧐- What the Workday lawsuit means for ...
Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Rebecca Eldredge - Episode 154
June 16, 2025

Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Rebecca Eldredge - Episode 154

Ready to explore what real inclusion and well-being look like—especially for those doing the heavy lifting on the frontlines of change?On this episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton are joined by Dr. Rebecca Eldridge, a licensed psychologist with 20+ years of expertise in multicultural issues and organizational well-being. Together, they dig into the often-overlooked toll of fighting for equity (especially for Black and Brown women), intergenerational trau...
Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 153
June 3, 2025

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 153

🔥 Welcome to Episode 153 of The Inclusive AF Podcast! 🔥 This week, hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton dive deep into the truths about undocumented workers in the U.S.—and the myths, misinformation, and politicized narratives surrounding them. Did you know undocumented immigrants contribute nearly $97 BILLION in taxes and have $299 BILLION in spending power ? We break down the real numbers, the industries that rely on immigrant labor, and the ripple effect on our economy if these workers are...
Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 152
May 21, 2025

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 152

🎙️ Welcome to Episode 152 of The Inclusive AF Podcast! 🎙️In this thought-provoking episode, hosts Jackye Clayton (VP of Talent Acquisition and DEIB) and Katee Van Horn dive deep into the current political climate and its direct impact on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives—particularly focusing on law firms' responses to new administrative actions and EEOC investigations.They break down:- What recent government actions mean for DEI practitioners and organizations across indus...
Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 151
May 10, 2025

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 151

Step into one of the most jaw-dropping conversations of the year! In Episode 151 of The Inclusive AF Podcast, Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn break down the shocking real-life consequences of the 2025 use of the Alien Enemies Act—a law from 1798 that’s suddenly front-page news. What does it mean when centuries-old laws are used against modern-day migrants? Why are Venezuelan asylum seekers being sent to a notorious prison in El Salvador without due process? And how is all of this igniting a ne...
Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 150
May 1, 2025

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 150

Radical Self-Care for Black Women: Why Rest is a Necessity, Not a Luxury | Inclusive AF Podcast Ep. 150In episode 150 of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton dive into a raw and powerful discussion that’s long overdue: Black women’s exhaustion and why radical self-care isn’t just a trendy buzzword—it’s an act of resistance and survival. Drawing insights from must-read articles and thinkers like The Root, Hood Communist, The Nap Ministry, Ebony, and more, Katee and ...