Welcome to the Inclusive AF Podcast, hosted by Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton. We trade corporate jargon for candid conversations about HR, leadership, and the future of work.
About the show
Every episode mixes strategy with the kind of banter you’d expect from two best friends who’ve seen it all. We talk AI in hiring and workforce planning, culture signals that push people out, career boundaries when work feels hopeless, and how policy shifts land on real employees, not just slide decks.
What you’ll hear
- Practical ways to lead through uncertainty without performative fixes
- How to spot culture problems before your best people leave
- Clear takes on DEI rollbacks, equity, and belonging that don’t rename the work and call it done
- Tools for protecting your energy, setting boundaries, and staying human at work
Who it’s for
HR folks, people leaders, and anyone done with optics-only inclusion. If you care about workplaces that work for more than a few people at the top, you’re in the right place.
Meet the hosts
Katee Van Horn is a Chief People Officer and inclusion leader who builds global people systems with strategy, and a sense of humor.
Jackye Clayton is an HR tech and talent strategist who connects people, ideas, and tools so organizations can move with clarity instead of noise.
Start listening
New to the show? Start with Would You Rather: DEI Hot Takes and Real Talk With Jackye and Katee, then subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen.